Normal cold-fill pressure is 1.0–1.5 bar (most manufacturers specify 1.0–1.2 bar); the PRV opens at 3.0 bar on most domestic boilers.
Summary
"It keeps losing pressure" is one of the most common repeat-callout descriptions in domestic heating, and it's also one of the most mismanaged. The pattern is familiar: an engineer tops the system up to 1.5 bar, the customer is happy for a few weeks, and then the boiler locks out on low pressure again — sometimes with the same engineer, sometimes with a different one, sometimes with the customer just topping it up themselves via the filling loop. Each repeat visit that ends in "topped up, working fine" without root-cause diagnosis is a wasted call-out and a customer relationship being slowly eroded.
The reason pressure loss becomes a repeated problem rather than a one-off is almost always that the previous fix addressed a symptom, not the cause. Topping up a system with a failed expansion vessel restores pressure for a few weeks until the next heating cycle spikes it again and the PRV dumps the excess. Topping up a system with a slow pinhole leak just delays the next call-out. Fixing a passing filling loop by simply turning the valve tighter buys days, not months. This guide sets out a diagnostic process aimed specifically at recurring cases — establishing a loss-rate history from the customer, ruling out each repeat-offender systematically, and fixing the actual cause on the visit rather than resetting the clock.
This article assumes gas work is being carried out only by a Gas Safe registered engineer, in line with the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998. For a general one-off pressure-loss diagnostic (leak detection, PRV testing, filling loop mechanics), see low pressure — this article builds on that process with a specific focus on why a fix didn't hold and how to stop the callout repeating a third or fourth time.
Key Facts
- Normal cold pressure — 1.0–1.5 bar (most manufacturers specify 1.0–1.2 bar cold fill)
- Normal hot pressure — rises 0.3–0.5 bar above cold fill; should not exceed roughly 2.0 bar
- PRV opening pressure — 3.0 bar on most domestic boilers (check the data plate — some commercial/system boilers differ)
- "Repeat" threshold — any system needing a top-up more than once or twice a year has an active, diagnosable fault; monthly or more frequent top-ups indicate a significant leak, a failed vessel, or a passing loop
- Expansion vessel lifespan — typically 5–10 years; the single most common cause of recurring (not one-off) pressure loss, especially on boilers over 8 years old
- Diagnostic golden rule — never recharge a system and close the job without establishing why it lost pressure; a repeat callout means the previous root cause was never found
- Ask the customer three questions before touching the boiler: how often do you top up, does it happen faster in cold weather (heating running more) or steadily regardless, and have you noticed any damp patches, warm floor areas, or noise from the PRV discharge pipe
- Expansion vessel Schrader test — must be done with the system fully depressurised (0 bar); testing under system pressure gives a false reading and is the single most common misdiagnosis in this fault category
- Internal filling loops (built into most modern combis — Vaillant, Worcester, Ideal, Baxi) fail silently and are easy to miss on a quick visit because there's no external hose to inspect
- Micro-leaks under floors are often the "no fault found" repeat callout — they don't show as a visible drip and need a 24–48 hour isolated pressure test to catch, not a five-minute visual check
- Magnetite/sludge contamination doesn't directly cause pressure loss but accelerates the failure of the components that do (PRV seating, vessel diaphragm) — treat black/dark system water as a contributing factor on repeat cases
- A PRV that keeps discharging is a symptom, never a root cause — replacing it without finding what's forcing it open guarantees a repeat callout
- Record pressure at every visit — cold pressure, hot pressure, and expansion vessel charge (depressurised reading) — a paper or digital trail across visits is often what actually solves a genuinely intermittent fault
- Building Regulations Part G recommends external filling loops be disconnectable/removable after use to prevent backflow and reduce the chance of a valve being left open
Quick Reference Table
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Try squote free →| Repeat pattern reported by customer | Most likely cause | What to check first on this visit |
|---|---|---|
| "Every few weeks, roughly the same rate" | Slow system leak (compression fitting, TRV gland) | Full visual inspection; isolate boiler and 24–48hr pressure test |
| "Only after the heating's been on a lot" | Expansion vessel failing/failed | Depressurise, test Schrader valve |
| "Random — sometimes fine for months, then drops fast" | Intermittent leak (thermal movement opening a joint) or PRV re-seating inconsistently | Check PRV discharge history with customer; recheck all soldered/compression joints under load |
| "Pressure creeps UP between visits, then drops after a PRV discharge" | Passing filling loop (internal or external) | Isolate/disconnect loop, monitor for pressure rise with loop closed |
| "Previous engineer topped it up and it dropped again within days" | Root cause never diagnosed — likely vessel or PRV | Do NOT top up again; full diagnostic per this guide before touching the fill valve |
| "Damp patch or warm patch on a wall/floor that's new" | Hidden system leak, possibly underfloor | Thermal imaging or tracer gas; do not just top up and hope |
| "PRV discharge pipe outside is wet or has limescale trail" | PRV discharging — check vessel and pressure history first | Check vessel charge before assuming PRV itself is faulty |
| "System water was black/sludgy at last power flush" | Contamination accelerating component failure | Check magnetic filter condition, inhibitor level, consider re-flush |
| "Boiler is 8+ years old, no leak found on inspection" | Expansion vessel age-related failure | Prioritise vessel test even with no visible leak |
| "Top-up needed weekly or more" | Significant leak or major vessel/PRV fault | Escalate — this is not a minor fault, treat as urgent |
Detailed Guidance
Why "top it up and go" creates repeat callouts
Topping a system back up to 1.0–1.5 bar makes the immediate symptom (boiler locked out, no heat) disappear, which is exactly why it gets used as a stopgap on busy days. But every top-up without diagnosis does three things: it delays finding the actual fault, it introduces fresh oxygenated mains water that accelerates corrosion and sludge formation, and — critically for the business relationship — it sets up the next callout, which the customer will remember as "you already came out for this." Treat any second reported instance of low pressure on the same system as a diagnostic job, not a top-up job, even if the customer just wants it "sorted quickly."
Decision tree — repeat pressure loss
Customer reports pressure loss has happened MORE THAN ONCE
│
├── Get history: how often, how fast, any pattern with heating use?
│
├── Was the system topped up previously WITHOUT the fault being
│ diagnosed (i.e. just refilled and left)?
│ │
│ └── YES → Treat as unsolved. Do not top up again until diagnosis
│ is complete. Continue below.
│
├── Check PRV discharge pipe and tundish (if fitted) for evidence
│ of past discharge (staining, limescale, dampness)
│ │
│ ├── Evidence found → PRV has discharged at least once
│ │ │
│ │ Depressurise system fully (0 bar) and test expansion
│ │ vessel Schrader valve
│ │ │
│ │ ├── Water at Schrader → vessel diaphragm failed
│ │ │ → REPLACE VESSEL (this is the root cause; do not
│ │ │ just replace the PRV, it will recur)
│ │ │
│ │ ├── No air/charge holds → vessel charge lost
│ │ │ → Recharge, monitor over 1-2 weeks with a follow-up
│ │ │ call — if it drops again, replace vessel
│ │ │
│ │ └── Vessel charge correct and holding →
│ │ PRV itself failing to reseat, OR filling loop
│ │ pushing pressure over 3 bar
│ │ → Check filling loop (see below); if loop is sound,
│ │ replace PRV
│ │
│ └── No evidence of PRV discharge →
│ Loss is NOT via the PRV — it's a direct leak or a
│ genuinely slow vessel fault not yet triggering the PRV
│ │
│ Visual inspection of all joints, radiator valves,
│ boiler internals
│ │
│ ├── Leak found → repair, THEN re-pressurise, THEN
│ │ schedule a follow-up check in 2-4 weeks to confirm
│ │ it holds (do not close the job on a single visit
│ │ for a repeat case)
│ │
│ └── No leak found →
│ Isolate boiler from system, pressurise system
│ alone to 1.5 bar, leave 24-48hrs
│ │
│ ├── System side drops → hidden leak (under floor,
│ │ buried pipework) → escalate to tracer gas /
│ │ thermal imaging / specialist leak detection
│ │
│ └── System side holds, re-test with boiler
│ included → drop now appears →
│ leak is INSIDE the boiler (heat exchanger,
│ AAV, pump seal) → strip and inspect, or
│ refer to manufacturer-trained engineer
│
└── Check for a passing filling loop in parallel with the above
(pressure creeping UP between visits is the tell)
│
External loop: close both valves, disconnect, monitor
Internal loop: harder to isolate — if vessel and leak checks
are clear and pressure still creeps up over days, the
internal filling valve cartridge is passing → replace it
Building a pressure-loss history from the customer
On a repeat case, five minutes of structured questioning before you touch anything saves an hour of guesswork on site:
- "How many times has this happened, roughly?" — occasional (twice a year) points differently than "constantly."
- "Does it happen faster when the heating's running a lot, or steadily regardless?" — heating-linked strongly suggests the expansion vessel; steady loss regardless of heating use suggests a leak.
- "Has anyone been out to look at it before, and what did they do?" — if the answer is "topped it up," the fault has never actually been diagnosed, no matter how many previous visits there were.
- "Any damp patches, warm patches on the floor, or noise from outside near the boiler flue?" — points to a leak location or PRV discharge.
- "Has the system water ever looked black or dirty at a previous service?" — flags contamination as a contributing factor.
The expansion vessel — the most common repeat-offender
An expansion vessel absorbs the volume increase of heated system water via a rubber diaphragm separating a gas charge from the system water. When the diaphragm splits or the gas charge leaks away, the vessel can no longer do its job — pressure spikes when the system heats, the PRV opens to relieve it, and pressure is then measured as low once the system cools. This produces exactly the "pressure keeps dropping" pattern that gets repeatedly topped up without ever being fixed, because a quick pressure gauge check when the system is cold looks like a simple low-pressure fault rather than a vessel fault.
Correct test procedure (must be done properly on a repeat case — a rushed check here is the single biggest cause of misdiagnosis):
- Turn off the boiler, let the system cool to room temperature.
- Fully depressurise to 0 bar via a drain or bleed valve — an accurate reading is impossible under system pressure.
- Locate the Schrader valve (identical to a car tyre valve) on the vessel.
- Press briefly: air = has charge (measure and compare to the manufacturer spec, typically 0.75–1.0 bar depending on make); water = diaphragm failed, replace the vessel; nothing = charge lost, attempt a recharge and monitor.
- Vessels over 8 years old that have failed once are a strong candidate for replacement rather than repeated recharging — recharging a vessel with a marginal diaphragm buys weeks, not years, and guarantees another repeat callout.
Filling loops — the "invisible" repeat cause
A filling loop that passes even slightly will push mains pressure (3–5 bar) into a 1.0–1.5 bar system continuously. This doesn't read as "losing pressure" directly — it reads as pressure rising between visits, which then triggers the PRV to dump the excess, which the customer then experiences and reports as "losing pressure" because that's the visible symptom (a puddle or damp patch, or a lockout after the dump). This is why a repeat pressure-loss case should always include a filling loop check even when the customer's language is entirely about loss, not rise.
External loops are straightforward — close both valves, disconnect the hose, and monitor. Internal loops (standard on most modern combis) cannot be visually inspected in the same way; if the vessel and leak checks come back clean and pressure still creeps up over hours or days with no top-up performed, the internal filling valve cartridge itself is passing and needs replacing — a boiler-specific part, ordered from the manufacturer.
When to escalate beyond a standard visit
A repeat case that has already had one or two "top-up only" visits before you arrived deserves a different approach than a first-time callout:
- Don't close the job on a single-visit fix for a genuinely repeat case. Schedule (or strongly recommend) a follow-up pressure check 2–4 weeks after any repair, especially after replacing an expansion vessel or repairing a fitting — this is what actually confirms the fault is fixed, not assumed fixed.
- If no leak is found after a thorough visual inspection and the vessel tests correctly, move to an isolated 24–48 hour pressure test rather than repeating the visual check on a later visit. A leak invisible to the eye needs a different diagnostic method, not another look.
- If the leak is suspected to be under a floor or behind a finished wall, be upfront with the customer that specialist tracer-gas or thermal-imaging leak detection may be needed, and that this is a separate, chargeable specialist visit — don't guess at floor-up locations without evidence.
- If the system water is contaminated (black, sludgy), factor a magnetic filter and inhibitor dose (or a full power flush) into the fix — untreated contamination will continue degrading the PRV seat and vessel diaphragm and produce yet another repeat callout even after the immediate fault is fixed.
Frequently Asked Questions
The customer says "it's happened three times now" — what's different about how I should approach this visit?
Treat it as an unsolved diagnostic case, not a routine top-up. Do not simply re-pressurise and leave. Get a loss-pattern history from the customer first, check the PRV discharge pipe for evidence of past activation, and test the expansion vessel properly (fully depressurised) before considering anything else. The previous visits almost certainly addressed the symptom, not the cause — your job is to find the cause this time.
I've replaced the expansion vessel and it's still losing pressure — what now?
This means the vessel wasn't the only fault, or a new fault has developed. Re-check: has the PRV been discharging since the vessel replacement (check the discharge pipe for fresh staining)? Has the filling loop been checked in isolation? Is there a leak that was masked by the vessel fault dominating the symptom picture? On a genuinely stubborn repeat case, isolate the boiler from the system and run a 24–48 hour static pressure test on the system pipework alone to separate a leak from any remaining component fault.
How do I stop a customer just topping the system up themselves between proper visits?
Explain plainly that repeated topping up introduces fresh oxygenated mains water every time, which accelerates internal corrosion and sludge formation, and that it masks the fault rather than fixing it — meaning the eventual proper repair may cost more (replaced components, a flush) than if it had been diagnosed on the first or second callout. Recommend removing external filling loop hoses after use (Building Regulations Part G practice) so a "quick top-up" isn't a five-second job for the customer to reach for.
Is a magnetic filter relevant to a pressure-loss fault?
Not directly the cause, but a strong contributing factor on repeat cases. Magnetite sludge can prevent the PRV from seating properly (causing a slow weep that reads as intermittent pressure loss) and can foul the expansion vessel connection. If system water is dark or the boiler has a history of heat exchanger issues, factor a filter and inhibitor dose into the fix, particularly on a system that has already had multiple pressure-loss callouts.
At what point should I tell the customer this needs specialist leak detection?
If a thorough visual inspection finds nothing, the expansion vessel tests correctly, the filling loop is confirmed sound, and an isolated pressure test still shows loss on the system side — the leak is hidden (under floor, in a wall, or in buried pipework) and needs tracer-gas, thermal-imaging, or acoustic detection equipment that a standard heating engineer's visit doesn't carry. Be upfront that this is a specialist, separately chargeable step rather than continuing to guess at locations on repeat visits.
Regulations & Standards
Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 — all gas work must be carried out by a Gas Safe registered engineer
BS 7593:2019 — Code of practice for the preparation, commissioning, and maintenance of domestic central heating and cooling water systems; covers flushing, inhibitor dosing, and filtration
Building Regulations Approved Document G — backflow prevention on filling loops; recommends external loops be disconnectable
Building Regulations Approved Document L — commissioning and pressure testing requirements at installation
BS EN 806 — pressurisation testing specification (1.1× working pressure England/Wales, 1.5× Scotland, held minimum 60 minutes)
Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999 — filling loops must incorporate a double-check valve to prevent backflow contamination
Benchmark Commissioning Checklist — expansion vessel charge and system pressure should be recorded at installation and at every service, providing the history trail that makes repeat-case diagnosis faster
low pressure — full one-off pressure-loss diagnostic decision tree (expansion vessel, PRV, leak detection, filling loop mechanics)
no hot water — diagnostic decision tree for no hot water, a common companion fault after a low-pressure lockout
vaillant — Vaillant F22 low-pressure fault code reference
boiler servicing — annual service checklist including expansion vessel charge recording